The Grapevine[TM]
A complete control network for your model railroad
What is
The Grapevine ?
The Grapevine
is the backbone of your signaling system.
The Grapevine is:
a hardware network, and
- a software format for sending information over that network.
Why
The Grapevine ?
- the signal bus requires a very fast response time when CTC is in use;
- The DCC format has a lot of redundancy required by the noisy rail-to-wheel environment, that
the signal bus does not need;
- The DCC bus is fully utilized just sending commands to the locomotives.
Therefore a separate databus - optimized for sending and receiving data, from
detectors and to signals,
switchmotors and other devices
Clinics and Presentations:
Grapevine Document and Support Pages
- The Node, which receives data from computer and sends data to computer
- The detectors, which detects cars and engines within blocks
- describes third generation detector, the ASD
- How to use the Grapevine ASD, circa February 2005
The driver boards which drive signals and switchmotors
How to connect highway flasher port, for various signal wiring conditions
- simple back-to-back (no additional resistors)
- common cathode
- common anode (2 methods)
Using the Grapevine Detector for 3-Rail, December 2004
How to connect the Solenoid switch machine (Peco, Atlas), for standalone or computer control
How to connect an optical isolator to the Grapevine Node, circa February 2005
How to connect the 3-amp Grapevine DCC Booster to the Grapevine Node, circa December 2004
- booster design subsequently changed to automatically restore power
Download the Grapevine Installation Instructions
View the Grapevine Connectors diagrams, 2007
NOTE: Grapevine Boards can not be shipped to addresses outside of the U.S. and Canada
The Grapevine: More Information
(This portion (c) 1996-2010)
- Is The Grapevine a complete system? YES: The Grapevine can
- control switch motors
- control signals
- control train-order signals (semaphore and searchlight)
- collect data from detectors
- regulate fast clocks, analog and digital
- control highway crossing flashers and gates
- control industry gates and "blue flags"
- control any other device (a led, a slow motor, a relay) on event or time
- "talk" to Working Weighscales
- Is The Grapevine prototypical? YES
- Satisfies the CFR 13-foot rule for signaling. You will own the only network fast enough to satisfy real railroad rules
- Signaling software comes with databases of aspects for prototype railroads
- Select the aspects/indications for your railroad
- Is the Grapevine up-to-date? YES
- Exclusively optimized for model railroading
- The Grapevine is the only microprocessor-based network for signaling in model railroading
- You will be using today’s leading edge communications technology
- How do I assemble it and wire it?
- No soldering
- All printed boards boards come pre-assembled.
- "Plug and click" the cabling
- All the connections are done with plugs and sockets
- The node-to-node cable uses telephone plugs
- The node-to-detectors use 3-wire plugs
- The node-to-signal boards use 14-wire ribbonwire connectors
- Power supply wires use "crimp-on" spade plugs
- Spend your time railroading, not doing complicated wiring
- Download the Grapevine Installation Instructions
- View the
Grapevine Connectors diagrams
Will The Grapevine be ‘orphaned’?
NO
- We have been at this since 1983
- Encouraged others to build compatible devices and software
- Published all the data formats
- Open architecture
- you can use other "On/Off" brands of detector (with
the parallel inputs)
- you can use any type of signals, including the ones you made yourself
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Detectors
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The detector
meets the prototype's 13-foot rule. The whole system (detector-> Grapevine->
computer-> Grapevine-> signal) can respond to occupancy in under 0.1 seconds dropping a signal from a "proceed indication" to "red" before the lead axle has travelled further than 13 ft past the block boundary.
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The "off delay time" follows the prototype practice; the prototype has a 5 minute rule. The hardware "off time" is
2.0 seconds. You can further adjust the off time in software.
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The detector output is fully isolated from the track power. The detection section of the detector gets its miniscule power needs from the command control track power, while the logic section gets its power from the single Grapevine power supply. Each detection circuit has its own on-board led indicating occupancy.
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Voltage drop across the detector is insignificant. Diodes are not required in adjacent non-detected blocks.... which means you can install this system incrementally.
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Current rating is 7.5 amps continuous (30-amp peak).
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The detector comes in 3 versions, all optimized for DCC.
- 8 blocks/board, through serial port
- 2 blocks/board through parallel detector
ports (up to 8 "parallel "detectors per Node)
- "Parallel" detectors also detect
'motion'. Excellent for hidden or staging track applications
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Driver Board
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The driver
board drives searchlight-type
signals, semaphores, color-position signals (CPL), Pennsy position-light-signals and 3-color signals.
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For
searchlight signals each board drives up to 24 bi-color leds in all 7 possible aspects (R, G, Y, and flashing R, G, Y, and dark). The aspects displayed are set by you in software, and can be tailored to any
prototype.
- For position-light signals use 2-ports each
- Color-position signals (CPL) use 2 to 10 ports, depending on number
of lamps on each signal.
- Driver outputs can be used to drive stall motor switchmotors.
- These boards are designed for the Tortoise and the Hankscraft machines (AS&S,Switchmaster,...).
- NOTE: Signal driver outputs can be used to drive relays (e.g. for grade-crossings, reversing loops, or wyes).
- Power supply
- The only item you have to supply is a single power supply that provides 12 to 18 volts somewhat filtered dc. A suitable supply would be a 12 volt transformer, with a full-bridge chip, and a 2000 ufd cap. across the dc side (all available at Radio Shack).
- From this power supply, you run two #18 or #22 wires around the railroad. Then you run a connector wire from each to the boards. All the power supply connectors to the boards are crimp-type, slipping onto lugs on boards. Soldering is not required.
- Each board has its own on-board 5-Volt regulated power supply.
- Total power requirements (amps) are mostly set by how many leds/signals you have.
- Board-to-board logic cabling and wiring
- Cabling between the boards can be supplied. The main logic wire between the network nodes is ordinary 6-wire phone cable with phone-type (RJ12) connectors.
- The cable from the network nodes to devices is ribbon cable. Connectors are included in the price.
- The interface board includes the 6-ft long cable with its DB9 connector that attaches to your computer.
- USB alternative to Interface Board
- USB-COMi for $48 (January 2005)
Semaphore Movie
See the 3-position semaphore driver in actionSemaphore Movie See the motor linkage and Semaphore Driverboard in action
Grapevine DCC Grapevine generates DCC packets and data. With
ProTrak Grapevine can be your DCC system.
Working
Weighscale Unique Grapevine device.
Weighs cars and engines
with near zero deflection - run engines directly over the scale.
"CarID"
Experimental Car Identification, here shown using small barcodes. Data is read
to ProTrak as described on this page. Same code in ProTrak could be used with RFID.
Working out the number of boards you need
A. Use the suggested USB-to-serial converter.
B. For Grapevine boards
Suggestions:
- Work from the detectors, to the Nodes to the driver boards
- Place a ASD Detector to serve 8 blocks (on upper and lower decks -
think vertically!)
- Place a Node next to the detector
- Place as many Driverboards within six feet of the Node to drive the
signals, switchmotors and other devices within the nearby area.
- Estimate: for each-dispatcher controlled passing track.
- 1/2 to 3/4 of a ASD Detector board
- 1/2 node
- 1 Driverboard for signals and switchmotors
- Detailed estimate
- Count controlled switchmotors (crossovers count as 1). Divide by
8. Total equals number of driver boards
- Count signal heads, and divide by 24. Total equals number of
driver boards.
- Detectors can be counted as hanging off Node boards.
- Number of Nodes equals number of detectors divided by 8 (24
on multi-deck railroad).
- Total of 1 and 2, and divide by 4 = number of nodes (usually
controlled by number of serial detectors)
- Actual required number of nodes/signals will be slightly higher
This page last updated: April, 2010